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Wednesday, April 23, 2014

Jiriaya Threatens to Kill Tsunade

Viz:

Jiriaya, "i'll personally hunt you down and kill you"
Jiraiya, "depending on the circumstances I might have to kill Tsunade"

CE Kabuto about as strong as Kakashi

Viz:

Orochimaru, "there's no way that you can kill me eh?" "Even if you're strong, you're no stronger than Kakashi so...."
Kabuto - SFX "Gulp"

Thursday, April 17, 2014

Hashirama's Fairy Tale Like Powers

Viz, Kabuto:
"There is no shinobi alive today who is as powerful as the first hokage Senju Hashiram in fact many doubt that his power was ever as strong as legends say just like they think the sage of siz paths power was also a fairy tale"

Shisui's Hype

ShounenSuki:
"Heh, actually that's a pretty difficult question when you look deeper into it. At first glance, I would say that Shisui is being called the strongest genjutsu user of the Uchiha clan, but I guess you could also interpret it as him being the user of the strongest genjutsu. Him being the strongest Uchiha who used genjutsu is actually the same as him being the strongest genjutsu user of the Uchiha clan.

I would still go for my original interpretation, though. That's the most straightforward, and thus the most likely intended, meaning. Him being the user of the clan's strongest genjutsu would probably be worded differently. Something like 'うちはの最強幻術の使い' or something.

I wouldn't be surprised if Shisui's Kotoamatsukami is considered on par or even stronger than Tsukuyomi or possibly even Izanagi, though.

For one, Kotoamatsukami is unique to Shisui while the other two could be learnt by any Uchiha with the proper level Sharingan. Secondly, Kotoamatsukami is the name of the first gods to descend to Earth. Izanagi is the name of an Amatsukami — one of the gods who came after the Kotoamatsukami. Tsukuyomi was actually born from Izanagi and thus yet another generation later.

Keep your interpretations simple. This is a manga that, although quite deep at times, is still not meant to be analysed for days on end. It's entertainment, not theology."

ShounenSuki:
"My original interpretation was that Shisui is being called the strongest genjutsu user of the Uchiha. Sorry for not being more clear, my head isn't where it should be today ^^;

Also, Kotoamatsukami isn't a single god, but rather a group of five gods.

Izanagi is part of the group of gods that came after them: the Kamiyo Nanayo, or the Seven Generations of the Age of Gods. Izanagi and his wife/sister Izanami where the last of these seven generations.

Izanagi later gave birth to Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, and Susanoo.

All these gods, together with all the other gods that are descended from, or reside in, the Heavens, are called the Amatsukami orHeavenly Gods. This as opposed to the gods that came from the Earth — like mountain spirits and such — who are called Kunitsukamior Earthly Gods."

Yagami1211:
"From my point of view he's uchiha's strongest "genjutsu user".
and not the user of the strongest genjutsu.

Because : 


最強の幻術使い : The strongest genjutsu user ( the one in the manga )
最強の幻術を使う : He who uses the strongest genjutsu.

The difference is that small."

Shisui:
"Hey, Turrin. So I guess the argument is whether the sentence should read as:

[うちは最強の] [幻術使い][Uchiha's strongest] [genjutsu user]
(The strongest user of genjutsu in the Uchiha)

or:
[うちは最強の幻術] [使い][Uchiha's strongest genjutsu] [user]
(The user of the Uchiha's strongest genjutsu)

It's kinda splitting hairs, but the first one is really the only sensible interpretation. The term for "genjutsu user" (幻術使い - genjutsu-tsukai) is a compound word, and an adjective before it should be seen as modifying the entire compound rather than just the genjutsu part.

Here's a similar phrase: 
世界最高の蛇使い
sekai saikou no hebi-tsukaiThe world's greatest snake charmer

What's a more natural interpretation of this line? That this is the greatest charmer of snakes in the world, or that he is the charmer of the world's greatest snake?"


Gottheim:
"Tricky question, that. New powers and techniques are constantly introduced as "teh strongest jutsu evah!!™", so it can get confusing really fast if you take it all at face value. Same goes for characters.
It is perfectly acceptable to translate "saikyou as "a most powerful", as opposed to "the most powerful" in some cases. It is, as many things in Japanese, context-dependent.

Now about Shisui, I believe Bee meant "the", and not "a". Because while Itachi was positively scary in his own right:

1. Unless I'm mistaken (it's not like I know the manga by heart), he was never praised in-story as the strongest genjutsu user of the Uchiha clan. He clearly is the strongest user alive barring perhaps Madara, but this isn't the same as "the strongest ever".

2. The way it is described, Shisui's genjutsu is so subtle you don't even realize you're under it. Itachi's illusions are nigh-impossible to dispel, sure. But you can tell he put you under one right away, and may attempt to fight it (however poorly). Shisui's genjutsu denies you even that. This would also explain why Madara and Danzou were so eager to get their hands on Shisui's eye, and why Danzou thought it gave him a fighting chance against Tobi of all people.

3. Itachi and Sasuke have both demonstrated the ability to put people under genjutsu without them realizing it. But those were simply hallucinations, limited in time and scope. They can trick you into a certain behavior, but that's about it. Your mind is still your own. Shisui's genjutsu is described as permanent (or at least very long-lasting), on top of which it doesn't just show you things that prompt you into a more or less predictable action: it outright controls you, and you don't even know it!

Now, as of the translation itself, here's my take on it:


うちは最強の幻術使い
Uchiha saikyou no genjutsu-tsukai

You mean Uchiha Shisui
瞬身のシスイか?
Uchiha Shisui ka?

The strongest genjutsu user among the Uchiha?

Itachi doesn't bother to contradict him, or even correct him. On the contrary, he builds upon it

シスイの瞳力は対象者が幻術にかけられたと自覚する事なく操る事ができる最強幻術を生む
Shisui no douryoku ha taishousha ga genjutsu ni kakerareta to jikaku suru koto naku ayatsuru koto ga dekiru saikyou genjutsu wo umu.

Shisui's ocular powers deliver a most potent genjutsu that allows him to manipulate his target without them realizing they've been put under an illusion.

t wouldn't make much sense for Bee to say Shisui was the strongest right in front of Itachi if the latter had built a greater reputation in the meantime.
If Itachi had surpassed Shisui in this domain, you could reasonably expect him to have come up with his own version of Koto Amatsukami. But he didn't. He resorted to Shisui's eyes for that instead.

Now you could argue that Koto Amatsukami is the only thing that puts Shisui above Itachi, and that Shisui merely got lucky with this MS powers. But this leades to the kind of convoluted speculation I tend not to feel very comfortable with.

瞬身のシスイか?
 Shunshin no Shisui ka?

Flash-Stepping Shisui?"



Takl:

"the advent of a new susanoO that is different from itachis or sasukes!

scoop 
the astonishing force...!!
Look out for the new susanoO!!
this susanoO Shisui activates is drawn (designed) by masashi Kishimoto sensei specially for NSR.Along with top secret anecdotes about Shisui, enjoy it to the full!


☆3 types of NSR battles to be unveiled!
☆Shisui and Itachi's esoteric technique of fusion, too...!?"


#2349 p.6 28 may 2013
uchiha shisui's susanoO (like [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_Jeeg"]Steel Jeeg[/URL])
↑shisui
↓✬cross-sectional surface

#2349  p.7     28 may 2013
Shisui uchiha's SusanoO
the parts in the chest open and from something like a heart SusanoO thousand pieces keep coming out like lasers/razors no stop.
susanoO thousand pieces
blade
 its rotation  might be nice


AnimeNewsNetwork (about the above scans):
"This year's 21st issue of Shueisha's Weekly Shonen Jump magazine is announcing on Monday thatNaruto creator Masashi Kishimoto designed Shisui Uchiha's Susanoo power for the Naruto Shippūden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution game. The Susanoo will be put into action in a previously secret chapter in Shisui's life that the game will depict."

Will add more Official Viz Translations relating to Shisui later.

Thursday, April 3, 2014

Origin of Uchiha and Hyuuga Clan

Takl "it's said that the origin of the Uchiha clan can be traced back to the huga clan.
Byakugan is a kekkeigenkai that has been inherited in the hyuga family and a dohjutsu similar to(/like) sharingan but..."
"when it comes to penetration ability
its the stuff that is even superior than sharingan."

「うちは一族も元をたどれば日向一族にその源流があると言われている ”百眼”ってのは日向家の受け継いできた血継限界の一つで写輪眼に似た瞳術だが... 洞察眼の能力だけなら... 写輪眼をもしのぐ代物だ」
"Uchiha Ichizoku mo moto o tadoreba Hyūga Ichizoku ni sono genryū ga aru to iwarete iru. 'Byakugan'tte no wa Hyūga-ke no uke tsuidekita Kekkei Genkai no hitotsu de Sharingan ni nita dōjutsu da ga... Dōsatsugan no nōryoku dakenara... Sharingan o mo shinogu shiromono da." 

"It's said that if you follow the Uchiha Clan further to its origins, it would be (where) the Hyūga Clan (is located... or so). The "Byakugan", one of the Hyūga house's Kekkei Genkai passed on by inheritance, is similar to the Sharingan - a Dōjutsu. Only when it comes to the power of insight... these are goods that even surpass the Sharingan." 

Sunday, March 30, 2014

DB Stats

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Character_stats

Stat Totals:
Anko - 25
Asuma - DBI - 31.5, DBII & III - 32.5
Baki - 29.5
Chiyo - 32
Choji - DBI - 13.5, DBII - 15.5, DBIII - 20.5
Dan - 31.5
Deidara - 32
Dosu - 16
Eibsu - 25
Gaara - DBI - 20, DBII - 26.5, DBIII - 29
Genma - 27
Gai - 31.5
Gaiden Obito - 18
Haku - 21
Hayate - 24.5
Haishi - DBI - 29.5, DBII - 30
Hidan - 31.5
Hinata -  DBI - 14, DBII - 15,  DBIII - 21.5
Hiruzen - 34
Hizashi - 29.5
Ibiki - 27.5
Ino - DBI - 15, DBII - 17, DBIII - 21
Iruka - 26
Itachi - 35.5
Jiraiya - 35.5
Jirobo - 23.5
Kabuto -  DBI - 30, DBII & III - 32
Kurunai - DBI - 29, DBII & III -  29.5
Kisame - 32.5
Kimimaro - 30.5
Kidomaru - 25
Kakuzu - 32.5
Kiba - DBI - 14.5, DBII - 17.5,  DBIII - 22
Kakashi - DBI - 33, DBII & III - 34.5
Kankuro - DBI - 19, DBII - 24.5, DBIII - 26.5
Lee - DBI - 17, DBII - 18, DBIII - 22
Naruto - DBI -14.5, DBII - 18.5, DBIII - 26
Neji - DBI - 21, DBII - 25, DBIII - 27
Orochimaru - 35
Rin - 21
Sai - 27.5
Sakon - 25
Ukon - 24.5
Sakura - DBI - 15.5, DBII - 18, DBIII - 26
Sasori - 34.5
Sasuke - DBI - 18.5, DBII - 22.5, DBIII - 31.5
Shikkamaru - DBI - 19, DBII - 21.5, DBIII - 24
Shino - DBI - 17, DBII - 18.5, DBIII - 21
Shizune - 29.5
Tayuya - 24.5
Temari - DBI - 19, DBII - 23, DBIII - 24.5
Tenten -  DBI - 16, DBII - 18, DBIII - 20.5
Tsunade - 35
Yamato - 31
Yashamaru - 22.5
Zabuza - 30.5
Zaku - 14

Edo Tensei Mastery

Takl "(it's) the forbidden jutsu only the 2nd hokage and Orochimaru-sama could use(=perform/operate)…
and I’m the third user"
"who now is even more advanced than the former 2."

"designed(/devised)by the 2nd hokage and perfected by Orochimaru-sama, it's the greatest heritage left in the world!"

Mu had a Tough Time with Joki Boi

Takl, Onoki, ""…mizukages unlimited/timeless blast ninjutsu which, I hear, my predecessor lord Muu had hard times/a hard time with...""

Info on How DB Stats Should be Read

Yagami1211, 
"Ability Parameter
Nin = Ninjutsu. Show the Degree of Proficiency and/or Knowledge in Ninjutsu.
Tai = Taijutsu. Show the Degree of Proficiency and/or Knowledge in Taijutsu.
Gen = Genjutsu. Show the Degree of Proficiency and/or Knowledge in Genjutsu.
Wis = Wisdom. Show the amount of general knowledge and IQ.
Str = Strenght. Show the Physical Strenght of the whole body as well as the walking ability.
Spe = Speed. Show the general speed and the reaction speed.
Sta = Stamina. Show the amount of chakra, as well as Stamina and Vitality.
Sea = Seals. Show the Degree of Proficiency and/or Knowledge in Hand Signs."


Weapon 

"NDB: Hiden Rin no Sho Pg. 14

総合能力:その(???)の忍としての能力(パラメータ上での8項目)を総合して評価

True / Overall ability: (As it relates to the 8 points being scored) The Shinobi's ability according to 8 factors. Each evaluated separately and then summed up through combining the evaluations of each into one overall score.

My Kanji's horrible and there's a few I couldn't read / know so takL might correct this though but there you are.

 the total statistics [True Ability] is what Kishimoto wants you to consider for ranking / overall power purposes"

Gottheim,

Total Ability: An average notation. Take all 8 of the parameter scores (Nin; Tai; Gen...), make a total and divide to obtain a notation out of 5.

Potential: An estimation of the character's likely progression. If they have a Kekkei Genkai or some other skill (like Sakura's chakra control) that is yet to be awakened, exploited or perfected, they potential will be higher.

Luck: Sometimes in a fight, circumstances and chance play a pivotal part. Luck is an estimation, based on observation, of how often a character can count on things going their way. Just replace "luck" with "Plot no jutsu".

Nagato Hype

Shisui, Jiraiya, "六道仙人と同じ目を持っていたあやつは 教えた術を全てマスタしたどころか
That guy who had the same eyes as the Sage of Six Paths...not only did he master every jutsu I taught him

一人では本来有り得ぬチャークラの性質変化6通りの全てをやってみせた

He also showed me that he could use all 6 methods of chakra nature-manipulation, which should have been impossible on his own

------------

主流忍術全てに精通したの力を持ち...
With a natural affinity for all primary ninjutsu...

十歳にしてあらゆる術を使いこなした
At just 10 years old, he could have performed any jutsu in existence"

Yagami1211, 
"Naruto : Saved ! Thank you Itachi.

Killer Bee : What the hell is that Ninjutsu ?
To tell the truth, this guy is hella strong, Mothafucka !

Naruto : Pain Rikudou have the power of Rikudou Sennin, so of course he's strong.
And now it's not dead bodies that he uses, it's the real deal.
Power and speed are on a whole other level."


Fusaku Naruto Surpassed His Predecessors

Gottheim,
Fusaku, "ナルトは先代を超えたようじゃのう。。。
Fukasaku: Naruto has surpassed his predecessors/the previous generation.

My opinion: Naruto's taken Sage Mode further than Jiraiya ever did, and disregarding the fact that Yoda didn't know about FRS, he perfected Rasengan, something Minato himself has never been able to accomplish. So yes, Naruto has "surpassed his predecessors".
That said, the sentence is way too vague to be taken as a statement of Naruto's actual power level and no amount of alternate translation is gonna change that.

Chiriku's Power

Shounensuki, "Gift of the Hermit Tribe."

Senju Clan the Strongest Clan

Gottheim
Chapter 399; p.01
Madara: The first man ever to take the name of Hokage./The clan Hashirama led, the Senju...//was acknowledged by every shinobi clan without exception for its superiority. And feared, more than anything else.

Chapter 386; p.10
Itachi: Madara used his power to subjugate every clan one after another./Then he joined hands with the clan that was hailed as the strongest, the Senju of the Forest, thus establishing a new organization.

Enma Hype

Fanbook, "An old monkey trusted by the third hokage. Many say he is the most powerful of all the creatures that can be summoned"

DB II, "A war veteran and a powerhouse, he was always to be found as Sandaime's right hand man, together with him on the battlefield, shapeshifted into the expandable Kongou Bou**" "**"Bou" simply means "staff". "Kongou" translates as "adamantine", "diamond", but is also a reference to "Vajra", Indra's indestructible weapon. Indra is an Hindu god. As usual, please refer to Wikipedia and Onmark Productions for better info."

About Chunin

Fanbook, "The Elite Squad Commanders"

Fanbook, "Chunin are in the center of the rankings, but their abilities are far beyond those of genin"

Fanbook, "particularly skilled Chunin might be asked to teach or mentor the Chunin selection example

Yondaime Kazekage Stopped Shukaku

Yondaime Kazekage, "When Shukaku the sand spirit ran amok I'd stop he sand like this"

Darui Ei's Right hand Man

Darui, "Two right arms"
Ei, "Yeah this one...and you"
Darui, "I'm bosses courageous right hand man"

Other Links for Good Translations

C-Net's Translations
http://mangahelpers.com/t/cnet128/archives/?manga=891
NJT's Translations:
http://mangahelpers.com/t/njt/archives/?manga=891

Itachi Commends Kurenai's Genjutsu Skill

Itachi: "Impressive, Kurenai... However..."

How Kirin Works

W/ Zetsu: "And what does that have to do with..."

B/ Zetsu: "He doesn't have to use his own chakra...
...But just take advantage of the enormous ambient atmospheric energy...

...To create a Lightning Style jutsu!"


W/ Zetsu: "Which one?"

B/ Zetsu: "Doesn't matter. Whichever one it is, it'll be on a totally different scale than what anyone else can create using change in chakra nature alone!"

B/ Zetsu: !
"I see...
So Sasuke deliberately lured Itachi outside so he could use the heat generated by the Amaterasu."

(Sfx: Zizzle) 

Sasuke: "This jutsu guides the lightning striking down from the heavens...

...In short, I merely direct it's power toward you."


B/ Zetsu: "Just as I thought... Which is why it cannot be evaded..."

W/ Zetsu: "Why not?!"

B/ Zetsu: "The speed of lightning is 1/1000 of a second... It's faster than sound!"